Wednesday, October 2, 2013

Matt25:9:“But the prudent,saying,No,lest not it suffices to us and to you.”

Verse 9:“But the prudent,saying,No,lest not it suffices to us and to you.”
Most,if not all translations of this is misleading ...as most translations of this verse are corrupted by the Fools asking for oil and the presumption they are running out of oil AND that the Virgin Wise reply has something to do with not enough oil for both groups...because the Fools think they need Oil and are asking the Wise for what they need.

But if Jesus words about the two groups reveal the Fools are not a “Vessel” or a “Lamp”,then it has to be something else. JESUS says this condition exist within them.

No, lest not it suffices to us and to you.” Is the rendering in the “Interlinear Bible”

As we have seen,when they were asked to “prepare” just before the Bridegrooms Arrival,the preparing revealed a changed condition within the Fools had occurred. They had been silenced and were no longer a “Vessel” for HS...no longer Wise as they were when 1st Invited. Something serious had happened to change the Fools. They were not fit “Vessels” for Holy Spirit. They were called Fools because this reflected who they truly were: Silenced, non shining Bride Lamps.

So the point the Wise now make would have to be another reason why HS could not go to them,since Jesus has already used words with certain meanings to reveal why they are called Wise or Fool..

Is this saying that there isnt enough HS for all “10 Virgins” IF they were faithful? Thus it would be: “lest not it suffices (not enough)to us and to you” That's ridiculous. There is MORE than enough HS from the Father of endless energy. So it MUST mean something else.

If you look at the original Greek,the reply the Virgin Wise make,starts with “No, lest not...” One word for “No” and another word for “lest not”. Thus 2 words meaning “no”

The Wise Virgins reply does not start by saying “no,lest not there is enough” or “perhaps” as many translations say. The Virgin Wise reply starts with a Greek word that is EMPHATIC. “NOT EVER”! The Fools ask for Oil/HS and the very first word the Virgin Wise use in reply is; “NOT EVER!”

So the first word “No” is not just No as the opposite of yes. It means “Not Ever !”

Anything said after that must reflect that emphatic beginning of their reply with the first “No” which means “Not Ever”. Then the rest of the sentence explains why “Not Ever”

So the first word in their reply means in Greek, “Not Ever”. Then the word “suffices” explains why it could be “ NOT EVER” that Oil/Holy Spirit could go to the Fools from the Virgin Wise.
Not Ever” has nothing to do with “perhaps there isnt enough for both of us”. Its not conditional to any reasons of supply amounts as many translations put into this verse because of the Fools presumption because of their distorted “dull or stupid” thinking,that they need oil. Jah has enough HS/Spiritual Oil for all faithful.

Since we have also seen the Greek word used in regards to the Fools reveal they are not capable of holding Oil HS because that “vessel” part of the lamp is gone...they cannot receive Oil because there is NO-WHERE for it to go.

So if they were not going to give the Fools any Oil and EMPHATICLY say...“Not Ever”,then the rest of their reply must explain why the EMPHATIC “Not Ever” !

The Greek word “suffices” is the key for the Virgin Wise being so adamant.
Greek word “suffices”:# 714~142,through the idea of raising a “barrier”..to “ward of”. “To be possessed of unfailing strength. To be strong. To defend,ward off.”...and it was these attributes via Holy Spirit that enabled a “Barrier” to be raised between the 2 groups...the Wise being faithful to the leadings of Holy Spirit...and this had raised a barrier clearly dividing the 2 groups with the same hope.

The word suffices is describing what having the Oil/Holy Spirit can do. It builds indomitable strength and also raises a barrier to “ward of”. This was because of what their brothers had become,what they had allowed to be “imposed upon them”...and the strength and “Barrier” was needed between them in a spiritual sense. So if the Wise parted with the Oil/Holy Spirit,that strength would be gone and they would be like the Fools.

Lest it suffices to us and you” It was talking about the “Barrier” that was between them as two different groups. It had come about because of the strength that was given to the Wise via the HS/Oil and the Light it gives. The Wise had acted in harmony with it and thus were able to “ward of” their Fool brothers corruption. Why else would they need to “ward of” these once Brothers of theirs ? The “Barrier” was there between them for a reason.

Lets put the actual meaning of “suffices” in the verse so we see how it explains the reply.
Not Ever,Lest not the “raised Barrier” be to us and you”.

The Wise knew the Fools were adulterers and they would not allow in any way THAT distinction to be removed...”to US and YOU.” The Virgin Wise knew there to be 2 groups within the same Hope. As Jesus said,5 would go into the feast and 5 would not. Were there any Fools in with the Wise ? Were there any Wise with the Fools ? No ! The barrier made that clear by events preceding. The barrier was there because of those events. The Wise said it had to be that way “to US and YOU.” The Oil HS the Wise had, made that possible,so would they part with it ? “Not Ever” The Wise were a “Vessel” for it and the Fools were NOT...THUS:“to US and YOU.”

Notice the Wise did not refer to the Fools as “US” when both had the same Hope? Why ? A division had been made within those of a Heavenly Hope. The Fools were not going to receive that Hope.

So the Virgin Wise knew they were not going to be Fools in any way..and them being faithful to the Token by being a fit “vessel” for Holy Spirit had shown who belongs where.

The Virgin Wise knew the division had to be clear before the Bridegroom arrived.

The “barrier”,by the actions of both groups proved who was a Virgin Wise and who has chosen to be a “silenced” Fool. Notice it was a “raised” Barrier ? Raised is something that has not always been there. By events within the Organisation it was “raised” to divide the group of “10”. The Oil HS the Wise had gave them “strength” to not be like the Fools.

So,if you have a “barrier” between you and another person,can anything pass over to the other side if the barrier is large and significant enough? If there are very good reasons for it to be there ? No! The “Barrier” that is being raised during the time we are living in, is weather Invited Anointed would be “Wise” or “Fools” in relation to them being a Bride Lamp for Christ and his impending Arrival.

Jesus said it would happen just before He Arrives.

The Wise were saying that there is a barrier that has been raised between “us and you”... and Oil/HS cannot pass from our side to yours...“ NOT EVER” And the Wise would know this to be true because they were Bride Lamps shining brightly with the spiritual Light that Oil/ HS supplies,from Christ.

Jesus said that any who asked for HS would get it. But something had happened that changed this in regards to the Fools.

What has happened between us is “suffices”/is enough... What has happened between us “suffices”...because a barrier dividing us has been raised and Oil/HS cannot pass over from us to you.”...“ NOT EVER” This is what the Wise were saying.
It had nothing to do with the Fools question of wanting Holy spirit/Oil from the Wise..and how that must be the reason for the Fools blindness because the Fools asked for it.

Of course they didnt have HS anymore,but WHY?

The reply the Virgin Wise give explains the action of Holy Spirit and what it had accomplished to divide them into 2 groups. One was NOT deserving of Holy Spirit at all ,“NOT EVER”..and the barrier would stop HS going to them. What had shown them to be Fools showed they were not fit for HS: Their choosing to be Adulterous Silenced Lamp Fools.

What they say next supports this “Be on YOUR way, instead, to those who sell and buy for yourselves.’..which will be explained...and shows the adulterous connection between the Fools and the “Seller”. “If you want something of a spiritual nature,go to the Ones you already look to for spiritual things.”..the “Seller”

But a “barrier” that is dividing Invited Anointed into Wise and Fools would happen before Jesus Arrival...and the “5” Virgin Fools would miss out. This in harmony with the Illustration of the wheat and weeds. This is why they could be called Wise and Fools. A “barrier” was “raised” that CLEARLY divides the Invited Virgins into two types of Virgins,who are 2 groups within the one hope. They have shown by what they have done with the Seller/Trader,who is on either side of the raised “Barrier”. What is on one side cannot pass to the other. A Virgin Wise would not go to join the once Virgin, now Fools. The barrier clearly shows who belongs where. They have shown themselves to be truly Wise or Fools by what they have done with their BEING a Bride Lamp.

Jesus was saying to the Fools via the Wise,you are sealed as such and HS cannot pass to such a person.

Some would choose and fight to stay “Virgin Wise”..and “many” would allow Silence to be imposed upon themselves. The unfaithful Wise,now called Fools,by the meaning of the word “Fool” explains how the unfaithfulness had occurred. They had allowed and didnt fight against the silence that was being imposed upon them. They didnt fight back..they wernt faithful as Bride Lamps. They were not faithful to the soon to Arrive Bridegroom. The Virgin Wise fought back,didnt allow anything to be “imposed” upon them..and continued to speak out and Shine Light as fit “Vessels” of Holy Spirit. The OPPOSITE of the appropriately named “Fools”
But the Wise because of the strength of HS and being fit “vessels” for it, have the “barrier” to “ward of” those on the other side...the Fools and their contaminating immorality.

Would they give anything to these ones who NEEDED to have a “barrier” between them as separated groups,to “ward them of”? NO! “Not Ever” !

When Wise and Fools are finally seen to be really that within the “10 Virgins” as a group(and sealed as such),then Jesus the Bridegroom can arrive. They are sealed as such and the Kingdom can be born..and the Virgin Wise go into the Kingdom Marriage Feast! And this is what happens next,the Bridegroom does arrive AFTER the Virgin Wise point out that the “barrier” has been raised clearly dividing the 2 groups.

Were the Wise even implying that the “barrier” might some how be overcome so that oil/Holy Spirit could pass to the Fools ? No ! The Greek word the Wise use to start their reply to the Fools is:“Emphatic” “Not Ever” was the reply. This shows that the time when the Virgin Fools asked for Oil,just before Jesus Arrival,that many things had happened to clearly divide the “10” as a group into Wise and Fools,which wasnt the case when the Organisation started.

The request came just before Jesus arrived. Their request wasnt at the beginning of the dividing of the group. It was at a time when both had shown who they were and because of this,the Fools were no longer “Vessels” fit or worthy for Oil/HS. The “barrier” divided them clearly so that shows they wernt going to get it. The Wise denied this request.

They didnt see when the Bridegroom was going to Arrive because they were not worthy of seeing it. Seeing it meant you were going to enter the Feast. Those who proved “Wise” were worthy of “seeing” and “entering” the Feast. Because of their seeing it via HS,they entered the Feast. By events not mentioned,the dull stupid Fools could see in the Wise,Jesus arrival was about to happen and the Fools didnt want to miss out.

What these events or signs through the Wise are,that make it obvious the Bridegroom will soon Arrive,we excitedly await. But it will be so obvious,even a spiritually dull and stupid SEALED Fool will discern or see it.

The Wise, because they had acted in harmony with HS and had spiritual light knew the Fools were unfit for Oil/HS. Why would the Wise give them any if they were unfit for it? The Fools as invited anointed had already been given it by the Bridegroom as a “Token” of His love for them and the Fools had rejected it by allowing someone to make them “silent” Bride Lamps...thus not speak out for their soon to Arrive Bridegroom.

What is proof that the barrier exists and HS/oil cannot pass from Wise to Fool ? In the next scene,the Fools go to the seller/trader WHILE Jesus arrives. Matt 25:10.Going away And they to buy,came the bridegroom and the ready (ones) went in with him to the wedding feast,and the door was shut.” This proves that there is a barrier between Invited Wise and Fools...and the Fools miss out because HS wasnt with them. Whereas the Virgin Wise went into the Feast. The Fools had left being a fit “vessel” for the HS to flow through,and they were in darkness. This is why “oil”/ Holy Spirit could not pass to them. The 2 groups within the same hope had been clearly divided and shown to be two separate groups. Even though they had the same hope, “5” of that hope missed out.

Jesus said:One group could be a vessel for “oil”/HS and the other could NOT be a vessel for HS...and the HS could not cross over the “barrier” dividing them...because it showed who WAS a Virgin Wise or Fool.

The barrier divided them into the 2 groups by the “10 Virgins” showing who would stay a Faithful Bride Lamp for their soon to arrive Bridegroom. The Virgin Fools bartered their lamps to the Seller/ Trader so they could stay within the Organisation. They did this because they support the Seller/trader,just like many Invited Anointed who support and give credibility the GB today by not speaking out.

The Virgin Wise shine for their Bridegroom and DIDNT trade/barter with the Seller/GB by bartering away their Lamps to the GB...which is why Jesus let them into the Marriage Feast. The Virgin Wise did not let the “whore-monger” make them one of the Harlot's prostitutes,whores.(this will be discussed later)

Going into the feast is being sealed into the Kingdom. That “sealing” hasnt happened yet,but the “Barrier” and how it is showing Wise and Fool is happening and is beginning to clearly show amongst Invited Anointed within Jehovah's Witnesses who are refusing the leadings of Oil/HS and ceasing to be Bride Lamps. As the word Fool means though,it has something to do with “religious rites” and the threat of losing them. Who would have to position and power within JWs to do this to remove these from someone? Only one group,the GB.

If the 5 fools hadnt stopped being Bride Lamps,they would see and therefore would be Wise,like the 5 Wise mentioned. This proves that ALL 10 as a group could have been Wise and therefore were the “fine seed” Jesus spoke about...and that some became Weeds or 5 Virgin Fools. The weeds are the 5 fools who bartered with the Seller/Trader.

Someone from within the Organisation is stopping “5” ..many Invited Anointed from going into the Kingdom with the Bridegroom.

But there is something else of great significance here for the Virgin Wise to say:“NOT EVER”:
Greek interlinear rendering:“Give to us out of the oil of you”. What a cheek to ask this..”out of the oil of you” The reason the Wise had Oil/Holy Spirit was because they had prepared/trimmed themselves and were fit “Vessels” for Oil / Holy Spirit...but the Holy Spirit they had was a token from their Bridegroom to them...”of you”..not to anyone else,not even their Fool former Virgin Brothers. The Virgin Wise Bride has prepared Herself via the HS. They adorned and beautified themselves by addressing doctrines that needed to be trimmed away and allowing the HS to circumcise their hearts of wrong desires and personality traits that are not befitting of Christ's Bride.

The Virgin Wise had cherished this “Token/Pledge” and acted in Harmony with it. The Fools had not done so. The Wise because they had light KNEW what the fools had done in respects to their Token from the Bridegroom. SO WHY would a faithful Wise Virgin give any Oil/HS to one who has acted in this manner in regards to the Bridegroom..and was an adulterer ?

This is why “not ever!” would this happen.

By giving up even some of this Oil(if that was possible),it would have been like giving away part of the Pledge or Token Jesus had sent to them as individual members. What has been going on within the Organisation is about who would be a fit “Vessel” for HS and keep shining Truth with it. The Virgin Fools had CHOSEN to be in the situation they were in. They hadnt listened to HS and its counselling as to what should be done with their “Lamp Vessel selves” but they didnt listen...and neither have those who are the GB...who deliberately have made whores of Invited Anointed within the Organisation just to keep their position.

of You”Greek word #5216 “of yours”. This means the Fools were asking for what was part of their personal Token / pledge between the Virgin Wise and their Bridegroom. When there is abundance of HS for those who ask,the Wise are talking about what has been given to each personally from the Bridegroom. What has been given each member,can it be shared with anyone else ? No! Only Jah has the right to say who is given this Token or not. If one has rejected it,is it acceptable for someone to over-ride what a person has done in regards to it and give them more of something they have already CLEARLY rejected...have grieved...have sinned against ? No. So the Wise will NOT give them anything of personal nature which is between the Wise and the Bridegroom that gives them spiritual light,or pass any wisdom or light to such adulterers.

An innocent question?
It might have sounded like an innocent question based on wanting to know when Jesus was going to arrive...but because THEY had “given away” the ability to receive HS,they wanted their Brothers to compromise in some manner. We cant say in what manner the Fools will ask the wise for help,but Jesus is saying that in some manner,when its obvious through the Wise He is about to arrive,the sealed Fools will ask for help to enter the feast. But they will not get it !

To betray the Bridegroom through adulterous sharing with their former Invited Brothers is out of the question. This wasnt going to happen. Even in regards to those who were former Invited Wise,but now Fools,the Virgin Wise would not be compromised. If Jah was no longer flowing through them with HS,then the Wise would not in any way help these Fools,even if the question was innocent enough on the face of it. These Fools were now adulterers with the Governing Body..which is why in the next sentence,the Wise tell the Fools to go the ones they are faithful too. The Fools were asking for information so they too could join their former Virgin Wise and meet the Bridegroom,.when the truth was that they already had committed adultery with the Seller/GB and were not showing a sign of repentance. They were unforgivable. “Go to those who sell” was the Wise reply..”Not Ever” with “US” !

So at some point in the future,Jesus is saying the Virgin Wise will say this to the Fools within JWs who ask them out of desperation and fear of losing their Once longed for Heavenly Hope,to now get it back. But it will be too late.

The Fools were asking help to get into the feast, when they already shown they were unrepentant adulterers towards the Bridegroom who was at the Feast. They got the “benefits” from the “barter” with the seller(to be explained),but this was adultery. NOW they wanted also what they had thrown away,the Heavenly Hope but without being faithful to the Bridegroom. They wanted two things. To stay adulterers AND the heavenly Hope as well.

Would the Virgin Wise,who were pure Virgins help those deliberately NOT pure get this chance?
Not Ever” !

How could they be given Light or help from the Virgin Wise just before the Bridegroom Arrives when they had clearly shown they were AGAINST Him because they betrayed Him with the Seller. The Wise had been speaking out about the Lies of 1914 and the false Arrival idea of 1919 and many other truths revealed via the Token that they had rejected. But they didnt want to hear it. Only when the Fools realised it was going to actually happen,were they interested in knowing,when HS also had tried to direct them. They were purely selfish. They had no signs of repentance. So they were happy with their adulterous “Barter” with the seller..but now they wanted their original hope as well with the Bridegroom.

Do you really think the faithful Wise Virgins were going to allow these Fools any chance of contaminating the Marriage Feast? “Not Ever”! At this point,its like Noah being in the Ark and the rain starts to fall. Yes,its obvious you are a Fool and should have listened. But the Door has been shut!

Lets not forget who and what these Fools are. 1st they were given an Invitation to be part of the Bride via a powerful means that the Invitation was real..the Token. The HS Token showed them the Hope they had. But instead of speaking out,especially about His impending Arrival as THEIR Bridegroom,they allowed themselves to then embrace a relationship that was opposite to them in what they had agreed with Christ. The Seller offered to allow them to stay within the Organisation and enjoy “religious rites and practices” in exchange for Silence. Fool means silence. So instead of being Loyal to the Bridegroom,they went silent and cowardly gave in to the “imposing” put upon them.. This WAS ADULTEROUS in the extreme ! A passage of time was allowed to see if they would repent of this crime against Christ. They didnt repent. Thus they were unfit anymore for the Token...and it was withdrawn !

But now they realise through their former faithful brothers that the Bridegroom was REALLY going to Arrive. As selfish unrepentant adulterers who gave no signs of regret,they have the gall to ask their once brothers for the very thing they threw away,the Oil that would give the light needed to be go in with the Bridegroom. They had become so spiritually blind and stupid,they thought it OK to ask this despite that they were adulterers and hadnt even shown the Wise in any way they were sorry for their now unforgivable sins against the HS Token.

Would the Wise,who had a “Barrier” to protect them against these unrepentant Adulterous ingrates,give them any clues about how to be with the Bridegroom when they had clearly rejected the One the Wise Virgins Loved ? “NOT EVER” was that going to happen! And its obvious,they are rebuking them to go to the ones who they betrayed the Bridegroom to...the Seller.

Rather,Be on your way to those who sell” and we will be on our way to the Bridegroom..and this is what happens in the very next verse !

The Fools HAD given away what they had by accepting/CHOOSING silence being imposed on them from the Seller/Governing Body. They had been given a Token of Jesus love...and instead of appreciating it and learning from it to be “prepared” as a Bride for the Bridegroom,they rejected the Token and were adulterous towards Christ. So in their mind,it was OK to ask for something personal given them by the Bridegroom and to treat it without respect.

For the Fools,it was what they had already done...and so the Wise should also do the same.

The Wise would have none of that ! “NOT EVER”...shows the great respect they have for the Token/Pledge that comes from their Bridegroom. They reciprocated the Love Christ has for them...not like the adulterous silenced Fools.

The Fools were asking the Wise to share their adulterous ways by being disloyal to the Bridegroom via the Token Holy Spirit. Their cavalier attitude towards the Token was not going to be how the Virgin Wise were going to act !

This is why in Revelation,in speaking of the completed and sealed Bride members,says “they did not defile themselves with “women”.” Its these fallen Fool “women” who are trying to corrupt the 5 Virgin Wise by their contaminated thinking. Is it any wonder that a “barrier” WAS really needed via the power of the Token HS to ward of these Fools!

The Wise had up to that point tried to share their Light ,spiritual Truths that comes from HS being active within them,because thats what a Lamp does. The time for that sharing was over...and that time for Sharing and Warning from the Virgin Wise is nearly over. But certainly will they NOT give to the Fools even a part of the sign of affection the Bridegroom has for them which enables them to shine..the engagement ring /Token / Pledge of HS...or to compromise it in any way by sharing anything with adulterous Fools.

They didnt ask for the Light,they asked for the Oil/HS..and this was the Token from their Bridegroom.

So there wasnt enough HS to go around ? No. The key is:“Give to us out of the oil of yours” What was given them as individual members of the Bride Class FROM JESUS..

The issue between the two groups was,who would stay Loyal to Jesus as Bride Lamps and the 2 groups within the same hope were clearly divided into Wise and Fools BECAUSE when the 10 were asked to “prepare” themselves so as to be fit for HS as the bridegroom was about to Arrive,it was revealed the Wise were fit for HS and the Fools were not. The Virgin Wise then shone with Light because of the HS being able to be within them. The Fools could not do that. They gave their being Bride Lamps to someone else and thus were unfaithful to their Groom.

So even giving some Oil to PROVEN unfaithful Fools who had clearly committed adultery and were whores, was out of the question to the Virgin Wise who had spiritual Light and understood clearly why the Fools could not see.

The ”out of the oil of yours” was a Token of the Love The Bridegroom for the Virgin Wise...and they were not parting with any of it ! “NOT EVER” ! They were not going to compromise it either by helping unforgivable Adulterous Fools who betrayed the Bridegroom by not speaking out and shining Light for Him.

Further to this:why were the Fools asking the Wise for “Oil” or Holy Spirit,when they should have known this comes from the Father ? They had slipped so far spiritually that they were asking humans for things that came from their once adoptive Father Jehovah. Since when can a Wise faithful invited anointed give anyone Holy Spirit. They cant ! But the Fools were used to other Humans telling them what to think and do. The “Silenced” Fools,were used to the Seller/Governing Body dictating to them what is “scriptural” and wasnt correct,”feeding” them spiritually instead of looking to their Father and Bridegroom. It was such an entrenched thing as adulterers,they did the same thing to the Wise as they have done to the GB. Instead of searching for what they needed from the Heavenly Father,their adulterous ways with the GB made them earthly and physical. This attitude continued towards the Wise.

The Fools were used to looking to Invited Anointed within the GB,but the GB are not telling anyone to “prepare” for Jesus true arrival. At some point this will be obvious to all Invited Fools that this is the case. They then will go to the Wise who have been shining light about an event the Governing Body have been silent about and persecuted anyone who has. But just because the Fools now ask the Virgin Wise,doesnt mean these invited Anointed will act like the GB Invited anointed and tell them what they want to hear.


The Virgin Fools were looking to humans for what only comes from the Father. And it shows they were in the habit of asking humans for spiritual things. How spiritually blind these “Fools” had become !